Comments on: R in the New York Times http://www.dataminingdownunder.com/2009/01/r-project-in-nyt/ Welcome to "Data Mining, Down Under", a blog by Aussie data miner Shane Butler. Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:34:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Steffen http://www.dataminingdownunder.com/2009/01/r-project-in-nyt/comment-page-1/#comment-506 Steffen Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:15:08 +0000 http://www.dataminingdownunder.com/?p=232#comment-506 Hello Shane Thank you for the links. No, I am not coming from the SAS side ... :) The problem is not, that R is interpreted. The problem is, that the character of any scripting language invites you to "hack" instead of develop. The S4-classes for an example provide a way to write clean code... but I know people who refuse S4 because the coding feels ... restrictive. Compare writing code in R and in Java (e.g. for RapidMiner (which I use frequently)), then you will get a basic idea... regards Steffen Hello Shane

Thank you for the links. No, I am not coming from the SAS side … :)

The problem is not, that R is interpreted. The problem is, that the character of any scripting language invites you to “hack” instead of develop. The S4-classes for an example provide a way to write clean code… but I know people who refuse S4 because the coding feels … restrictive.

Compare writing code in R and in Java (e.g. for RapidMiner (which I use frequently)), then you will get a basic idea…

regards

Steffen

]]> By: Shane Butler http://www.dataminingdownunder.com/2009/01/r-project-in-nyt/comment-page-1/#comment-505 Shane Butler Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:30:38 +0000 http://www.dataminingdownunder.com/?p=232#comment-505 Hi Steffen What is the issue with R scripting, aren't SAS et al. interpreted also? BTW I am not aware of particular software development resources, but here are some general R links I use... <a href="http://RforSASandSPSSusers.com" rel="nofollow">http://RforSASandSPSSusers.com</a> <a href="http://www.statmethods.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.statmethods.net/</a> <a href="http://www.liaad.up.pt/~ltorgo/DataMiningWithR/" rel="nofollow">http://www.liaad.up.pt/~ltorgo/DataMiningWithR/</a> <a href="http://rattle.togaware.com/" rel="nofollow">http://rattle.togaware.com/</a> Shane Hi Steffen

What is the issue with R scripting, aren’t SAS et al. interpreted also?

BTW I am not aware of particular software development resources, but here are some general R links I use…
http://RforSASandSPSSusers.com
http://www.statmethods.net/
http://www.liaad.up.pt/~ltorgo/DataMiningWithR/
http://rattle.togaware.com/

Shane

]]> By: Steffen http://www.dataminingdownunder.com/2009/01/r-project-in-nyt/comment-page-1/#comment-504 Steffen Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:50:11 +0000 http://www.dataminingdownunder.com/?p=232#comment-504 Thank you for the link. I normally dont read the NY Times, so I would never have seen this without your suggestion. Another argument for upcoming discussions with managers... One of the issues of R is its script-like-character. Hence the software developers at my company gave me strange looks when I talk about R ... not without reasons, I have seen R code at universities --- lets not talk about it. I wondered...can you recommend any documents / books about professional software development with R ? Especially S4 has a lot of potential ... maybe there are already some "best practices" out there... thanks in advance kind regards, Steffen Thank you for the link. I normally dont read the NY Times, so I would never have seen this without your suggestion. Another argument for upcoming discussions with managers…

One of the issues of R is its script-like-character. Hence the software developers at my company gave me strange looks when I talk about R … not without reasons, I have seen R code at universities — lets not talk about it.

I wondered…can you recommend any documents / books about professional software development with R ? Especially S4 has a lot of potential … maybe there are already some “best practices” out there…

thanks in advance

kind regards,

Steffen

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